- 05:41 PM
- 02/22/12
Did he see Durant's 50-point game? With the 40 from Westbrooke and the triple-double from Ibaka? I love watching the Thunder.
posted by bperk at 04:55 PM on February 22
Happy belated birthday, Charles.
posted by beaverboard at 04:42 PM on February 22
Here's the column Federico wrote that he mentioned in his apology.
He doesn't sound like a person who'd try something edgy with a headline.
posted by rcade at 04:27 PM on February 22
His identity theft should revolve around him posing as a major league pitcher the past few years. That charade has offended me more than I can say.
posted by dyams at 04:20 PM on February 22
Tuomo Ruutu gets motherfucking paid.
I like the guy and all, and it's really cool having Finns on the team, but this deal will come back and bite Rutherford on the ass when he needs to get Jeff Skinner motherfucking paid and when he finally decides to get some help at D. *sigh*
posted by NoMich at 03:58 PM on February 22
linStop.
linPlease, linstop.
posted by NoMich at 03:48 PM on February 22
after Jeremy Lin became a lincredible linsation.
Stop.
Please, stop.
posted by grum@work at 03:31 PM on February 22
I missed this earlier, but I thought it was interesting. Barkley got a little happier later after Jeremy Lin became a lincredible linsation.
posted by rcade at 03:22 PM on February 22
"The only reason you talk [expletive] is because you know I can't come off the court right now and beat your ass." -- LeBron James to a heckler who played the Delonte-and-yer-mom card
posted by rcade at 03:13 PM on February 22
A Michigan family found an 1894 football card in a farmhouse.
posted by rcade at 03:12 PM on February 22
My only gripe with NBC's coverage of hockey is their puzzling decision to make Mike Emrick their main play by play announcer. His editorializing and choice of made up words that he uses drive me to mute just about any game he is calling. I hope he retires soon.
posted by insomnyuk at 03:01 PM on February 22
Anthony Federico's apology.
posted by tommytrump at 02:26 PM on February 22
I think David Feherty does as many things as he can backhanded.
posted by beaverboard at 01:05 PM on February 22
Heh. Should I reply to myself with a blistering rebuttal?
posted by rcade at 12:35 PM on February 22
shoot (hockey) and bat left-handed. It's actually not that rare.
If you ask a European, that's the correct way to shoot a hockey puck. Since power for a hockey shot comes from the top hand, it makes more sense to have your stronger hand at the top of the stick, using the bottom hand as a fulcrum. That's why you see so many "left handed" European hockey players; they are actually right handed.
posted by tahoemoj at 12:09 PM on February 22
My fiancee golfs, drinks, smokes, left handed, but is right handed with everything else.
posted by Debo270 at 12:00 PM on February 22
From that first thread, "I'm glad NBC doesn't have the rights to NHL hockey." - rcade.
posted by yerfatma at 11:40 AM on February 22
He is right handed.
But golfs left?
I'm the same way. I'm right-handed (writing, throwing), but golf, shoot (hockey) and bat left-handed. It's actually not that rare.
The rare person is the one that throws/writes left-handed but bats/golfs right-handed. Only a couple of athletes are like that (Rickey Henderson is one of them).
posted by grum@work at 11:21 AM on February 22
On this day in SpoFi history . . . 10 years ago, folks were chatting about the U.S. Russia Olympic men's semifinal ice hockey game (Mike Richter sighting!), Michelle Kwan's (remember her?) failure to win gold, and the proto-Kenny Powers, John Rocker, playing a crazed madman in a horror flick.
posted by holden at 10:39 AM on February 22
He is right handed.
But golfs left?
posted by Debo270 at 09:21 AM on February 22
He is right handed.
posted by tselson at 10:27 PM on February 21
Why did Phil sign RIGHT HANDED?
posted by bluemagpie at 10:02 PM on February 21
My gut reaction is usually to provide benefit of the doubt to someone, but I can't honestly sit here and think - honest mistake, everyone says "chink in the armour"when a weakness is revealed. It isn't and in my experience, they do not.
I think that the night guys thought they were being clever, or funny, and took a risk based on the idea that they could claim ignorance later. Well, it was a risk, the editor took it and paid the consequence that everyone could see coming a mile down the road. ESPN is a brand, and that kind of activity damages the credibility of the brand in a way that is easily avoided. Pay attention.
At best the editor was not providing sufficient due diligence in his work - which is a good reason to terminate - or there was a breakdown in the chain of authority, in which case a head has to roll anyway. In either event, someone has to be put out to pasture.
Any media outlet with a shred of credibility is forced to fire anyone who jeopardizes that credibility, especially in the first week of what was/is the biggest sports story of the time, at the biggest sports media empire of the day. Otherwise ESPN is put in the position of defending the headline, regardless of whether or not the headline was intentionally insensitive. ESPN is not going to face weeks or months of condemnation and accusation of racial insensitivity to protect one mans' job.
So Jeremy Lin gets to forgive the editor and host, and ESPN gets to punish them to the extent they deem necessary. This should be completely predictable by all involved.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 07:54 PM on February 21
Tiger's match play opponent said before they play Wednesday, "I think he's beatable." Sufferin' Stephen Ames!
posted by rcade at 07:49 PM on February 21
Yeah, it was a joke and not meant to be an argument one way or the other. I'm not sure if he did it on purpose or not but I'm of the opinion that it doesn't really matter. If you are that insensitive it doesn't much matter what your intentions were. It's at least nice to see an actual apology and not a "I'm sorry you're so sensitive" apology.
posted by tron7 at 04:51 PM on February 21
There's been debate on Reddit about blackouts lately. The conclusion being if you live in a local market, MLB TV and Extra Innings are a waste of money.
posted by Drood at 04:03 PM on February 21
Why?
If you believe that "Chink in the Armor" wasn't a play on Lin's race, then why should a replacement one have to play on his name?
I'm guessing that was a joke, grum.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 03:46 PM on February 21
If you work in the communications industry and you fail to see that using a headline like that could be found the least bit offensive then perhaps you should seek a different profession.
Plus also too:
If that very same phrase has been used by ESPN 3,000 times then maybe it's time to stop being so derivative.
posted by THX-1138 at 03:28 PM on February 21
If the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "chink in the armor" is race, then the problem is in you.
It's not the phrase by itself, it's the accompanying pictures of a person of Asian descent.
If the phrase "Monkey See, Monkey Do" was the headline with a picture of some white kids imitating an athlete's stance, no one would care. If it's the same headline for a picture of black kids imitating an athlete's stance, then I think people would be pretty upset.
As jmd82's link mentioned, "chink in the armor" has been used 3,000+ times on their site. It's a very common phrase, but as I said you armchair warriors are looking to parse this situation with a scrutiny you couldn't withstand yourselves.
Someone isn't going to look through the history of the site to see if a phrase has been used 3000 times.
Come up with 3 alternate phrases, then, for someone who once seemed unstoppable coming back down to earth.
"Lin-charus crashes to earth."
posted by grum@work at 03:23 PM on February 21
And they have to include at least one Lin pun.
Why?
If you believe that "Chink in the Armor" wasn't a play on Lin's race, then why should a replacement one have to play on his name?
How about:
"Streak Ends With Wimper" "Lin Struggles During Loss"
If you have to be punny:
"Lin-sanity Cured: Knicks Lose"
posted by grum@work at 03:11 PM on February 21
And just how does anyone think of armour when speaking about Jeremy Lin on the basketball court ...
Maybe he was wearing Under Armour.
posted by BornIcon at 02:39 PM on February 21
I guess you're all perfect
Far from it.
But when I make a mistake I own it, realize I must pay for it, and learn from it. I realize attempting some lame cover-up is exponentially worse than the original mistake.
posted by cixelsyd at 01:53 PM on February 21
Nice piece on how MLS fans are banding together to improve scheduling and the treatment of away fans through cooperation with the league and team front offices.
posted by etagloh at 01:47 PM on February 21
And they have to include at least one Lin pun.
A Human Lindeed.
posted by goddam at 01:24 PM on February 21
Come up with 3 alternate phrases, then, for someone who once seemed unstoppable coming back down to earth.
Feet of clay. Knocked off a pedestal. Brought low. Or, since you suggested it, what's wrong with "brought back down to earth"?
posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:57 PM on February 21
A friend ran a credible statistical analysis via NBA 2k2 on X-box and concluded that the Mavs can not lose the championship this year. I would concur.
'NBA 2k2' sounds so foreign to me now. Couldn't recall what happened in the playoffs that year. The Mavericks swept the 5th seeded Timberwolves and were then bounced in 5 games by the Kings. The Lakers won the title, beating the Nets in the Finals.
Also, this is the trade that lead to the Nuggets ping-pong-ball-collecting-17-win season in '02-'03 which ultimately got them Carmelo Anthony.
posted by tron7 at 12:40 PM on February 21
Maybe he could follow A.J. Burnett to Pittsburgh, where the pressure to win generally subsides after the home opener.
Sold, we will take him. Another pitcher would be great as we strive for mediocrity. Will the Pirates add another season to the current record of seasons under .500 ????????
YES
posted by Debo270 at 12:06 PM on February 21
The Ontario Teacher's Pension or whatever needs to sell the team to someone committed to building a championship contender!
They sold their share of the Leafs to Bell Canada and Rogers Communication.
posted by grum@work at 11:50 AM on February 21
uhg, don't remind me about the Leafs. At this rate they barely sneak into the playoffs. The Ontario Teacher's Pension or whatever needs to sell the team to someone committed to building a championship contender!
posted by insomnyuk at 11:42 AM on February 21
Since I've joined:
Number of championships won by teams I actively support/cheer for:
Toronto Maple Leafs - 0
Toronto Blue Jays - 0
Toronto Raptors - 0
Toronto FC - 0
Buffalo Bills - 0
Canadian Men's Olympic Ice Hockey Team - 2
Canadian Women's Olympic Ice Hockey Team - 3
So let me have my small victories when I can get them...
posted by grum@work at 11:37 AM on February 21
Should ESPN be obligated to report on the blackout conversation?
posted by yerfatma at 10:51 AM on February 21
On this day in SpoFi history . . . ten years ago, certain SpoFites were just about ready to hand the Dallas Mavericks the 2002 NBA Championship (just 9 years too soon!).
Oh yeah, and some blow-hard Canadian joined the site (apparently to crow about the Canadian women winning the Olympic gold medal). Happy 10th Anniversary, grum!
posted by holden at 10:30 AM on February 21
On this day in SpoFi history . . .
I like these posts a lot. Well done sir.
I went back and looked at this day in history for myself and chuckled to see a story about Rugby and Johnny Wilkinson in the category "football."
posted by Mr Bismarck at 10:18 AM on February 21
Come up with 3 alternate phrases, then, for someone who once seemed unstoppable coming back down to earth.
And they have to include at least one Lin pun.
posted by tron7 at 10:13 AM on February 21
It's a very common phrase, but as I said you armchair warriors are looking to parse this situation with a scrutiny you couldn't withstand yourselves.
You're doing just as much mind-reading as we are by assuming he did it innocently.
I guess you're all perfect, and eternally flawless.
You don't have to be perfect to think people should be held accountable for their mistakes. I've been in Federico's position -- I lost my first programming job because an error I made cost 400 telemarketers each four hours of work time (1,600 man hours!). I showed up for work and was shown the door.
It sucked, and as I said earlier I don't like people getting fired for one mistake. But given the consequences for his employer, some punishment was warranted.
posted by rcade at 08:05 AM on February 21
But then. I guess you're all perfect, and eternally flawless.
And don't you fogret it!
posted by apoch at 06:24 AM on February 21
Come up with 3 alternate phrases, then, for someone who once seemed unstoppable coming back down to earth.
As jmd82's link mentioned, "chink in the armor" has been used 3,000+ times on their site. It's a very common phrase, but as I said you armchair warriors are looking to parse this situation with a scrutiny you couldn't withstand yourselves.
Funny-image sites are chock full of examples of amusing headlines, typos, awkward image juxtapositions, and other news media mishaps. Not everything is a conspiracy or a firing worthy offense.
But then. I guess you're all perfect, and eternally flawless.
posted by hincandenza at 01:40 AM on February 21
... but why would it be?
Why wouldn't it be is a better question.
He does make his living writing catchy lead phrases for sports stories. Yet this time, for some unknown reason, he just happened to come up with the term chink as a lead-in for a story on someone of Asian descent.
And just how does anyone think of armour when speaking about Jeremy Lin on the basketball court ...
Oh yes, it was the first thing that was typed and quickly submitted without any thought or editorial review. A complete oversight by all involved.
Bullshit.
posted by cixelsyd at 12:25 AM on February 21
Watched Crawford with a couple of the Boston talking heads this evening. He didn't seem to be terribly upset, more surprised than hurt, with John Henry's comments. For his part, as the link points out, Henry has said that his comments were prompted more by having a lineup overloaded with left-handed hitters than they were about Carl Crawford. To me, Crawford appeared quite relaxed, nothing like the uptight person he was last season. Perhaps it was the pressure of a large contract in a new place, but it seems he might be better equipped to deal with it this year. There was a quick look at him hitting off a tee in the batting cage - swinging one-handed because of his wrist - and he's narrowed his stance, closed it up from the extreme open stance of last season, and seems to have made his swing a bit more compact. He may never again hit over .300, but I would bet he is north of .280 with 25+ HR. He is well aware that he stunk last season, understands why it happened, and will do his best to avoid having something like that happen again.
posted by Howard_T at 10:07 PM on February 20
If the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "chink in the armor" is race, then the problem is in you.
Leaving aside the context in which the headline appeared and the fact that the word "chink" has doubtless gotten much more usage in modern times as a racial insult than in the phrase "chink in the armor", neither of which is negligible, I would concede that if someone has never heard of the phrase "chink in the armor", you could make the argument that that person's ignorance is responsible for the misunderstanding. On the other hand, don't you think that someone who is paid to communicate should have considerable skills in doing just that? And isn't understanding what your audience is likely to hear an important part of effective communication? If it wasn't a sly racist dig, it was either obtuseness ("'Chink in the armor', yeah, cool military analogy!") or blind insistence on what people ought to think as opposed to what they do think ("I'm going to say 'chink in the armor', because only an ignorant idiot would think it was a racial insult!"). None of those sounds like someone I'd want writing headlines for my publication.
And I don't know why some guy should lose his job over a mistake that hurts no one.
I don't think that you are really in a position to state that it "hurts no one". You don't think it should hurt anyone, but your worldview is not the only worldview out there.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:01 PM on February 20
On this day in SpoFi history . . . 10 years ago, Spofites debated whether this place was becoming "too cheesecake oriented" in the context of a post regarding the SI swimsuit issue.
The thinking person's sports site.
posted by bperk at 08:54 PM on February 20
Crawford was great when he played for Tampa. Boston broke him. Give him back please.
posted by bperk at 08:48 PM on February 20
Sounds to me as if Crawford may have a hard time ever dealing with the kind of pressure playing in Boston carries. Maybe he could follow A.J. Burnett to Pittsburgh, where the pressure to win generally subsides after the home opener. Watch him win 18 games.
posted by dyams at 07:55 PM on February 20
The gesture was especially nice given that the spectator had not asked for anything, and had actually stepped away from Phil.
Great ending to the event yesterday, good for golf.
posted by dviking at 06:45 PM on February 20
I'm hoping Henry will now come out to say he supports Luis Suarez unconditionally, just to make things even better.
posted by yerfatma at 06:36 PM on February 20
Blake Geoffrion (profile here) has become the 4th generation of his family to play for Canadiens. He is the great-grandson of Howie Morenz and the grandson of the legendary Bernie "boom-boom" Geoffrion. His father, Danny, was drafted by Montreal, but had only a 'cup of coffee' with them before playing a year with Winnipeg. Blake Geoffrion was a standout with Wisconsin, but will the pressure of trying to follow his illustrious family prove to be too much?
posted by Howard_T at 04:36 PM on February 20
No, you don't, Mariano. You have $144 million in lifetime earnings and you're 42 years old. You are pitching because you want to do it.
rcade -- that may be true, but he also may simply be viewing his contract as an obligation (novel idea, I know). If he was saying he had an "obligation" at the time he was negotiating or executing a new contract prior to Spring training (as opposed to entering into the final year of a 2-year deal), your point would hold more water. But he seems to me the type of guy who would truly believe that he has committed to give the Yankees one more year and needs to stick by it (even if he could technically "break" the contract by retiring and not taking the extra money owed him).
posted by holden at 03:46 PM on February 20
On this day in SpoFi history . . . 10 years ago, Spofites debated whether this place was becoming "too cheesecake oriented" in the context of a post regarding the SI swimsuit issue.
This blast from the past brought to you as part of a sporadic/occasional series celebrating the 10th anniversary of SportsFilter.
posted by holden at 03:44 PM on February 20
"My kids want me home. They were ready for me to stay home. I had to tell them, I have a job to do. I have obligations." -- Mariano Rivera
No, you don't, Mariano. You have $144 million in lifetime earnings and you're 42 years old. You are pitching because you want to do it.
posted by rcade at 03:31 PM on February 20
What's wrong with Dominic Moore?
He's now on his 9th team in just 8 seasons in the NHL.
He's been part of 10 franchises, as he was dealt from NYR to Nashville, and then from Nashville to Pittsburgh, in the same day during the off-season. He's actually only worn 9 different team jerseys.
posted by grum@work at 02:50 PM on February 20
What if the first thing I think of when the phrase comes up about an Asian-American person is race? You're being a bit too clever for me there. You're saying you have the exact same reaction to:
For some of us, yes. I saw the original SC video before it become a controversy and the "chink" comment didn't even register until I saw this article.
posted by jmd82 at 02:35 PM on February 20
If the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "chink in the armor" is race, then the problem is in you.
When I see a headline over a picture of Jeremy Lin that says "Chink in the Armor," the first thing I think of is race. When I saw the picture on Twitter, I thought it had to be a hoax. The racial connotation of the phrase is honkingly obvious.
If Anthony Federico made an innocent mistake, his work must not have had any oversight at ESPN.
posted by rcade at 02:28 PM on February 20
If the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "chink in the armor" is race, then the problem is in you.
What if the first thing I think of when the phrase comes up about an Asian-American person is race? You're being a bit too clever for me there. You're saying you have the exact same reaction to:
"Hulk Hogan has a chink in his armor."
and
"Jeremy Lin has a chink in his armor."
That seems incredibly worldly of you.
posted by yerfatma at 02:11 PM on February 20
I think the 30-day suspension of the anchor was a bit much, particularly as the forethought and ability to edit/correct before publication for a live on-air interview are not there the same way they are for a headline. In addition, the anchor is married to an Asian-American woman, so surely you would have to give him the benefit of the doubt in terms of whether he was trying to score clever-offensive-pun-points or letting latent racism boil up to the surface.
Back to Lin -- is there any type of net turnover statistic that looks at turnovers made and turnovers created for the other team? Because sure Lin has some value if he is neutralizing a fair number of his turnovers with steals.
posted by holden at 01:53 PM on February 20
If the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase "chink in the armor" is race, then the problem is in you. And I don't know why some guy should lose his job over a mistake that hurts no one.
posted by hincandenza at 01:52 PM on February 20
I'd bet anything it was an honest mistake- and not even a mistake, since you're the racist that thinks "chink in the armor" is inherently racist.
So the Asian-Americans who were upset by this are all racists? Surely you will concede that people who read the headline "Chink in the Armor" after Lin's first loss would have good reason to question whether it was an intentional reference to his race.
posted by rcade at 01:38 PM on February 20
I totally buy it- and like I said, it's the part of our Internet culture I hate. cixelsyd and others are SURE it was malevolent... but why would it be? The guy has worked there for six years without incident, says he's used the term before- as have I, in conversation- and the job at ESPN is fast-paced; you don't have the overnight print run to ponder your head line. With the race to publish close to real time, this guy is churning out headlines at a conversational pace. If we held you to the same standard, you'd sound like Tobias Fnke.
I'd bet anything it was an honest mistake- and not even a mistake, since you're the racist that thinks "chink in the armor" is inherently racist. I hate that even he and the online commentator said ESPN "did what had to be done". Except... they didn't have to do this. They fired a guy just doing his job, possibly derailing his caree, so some slavering Internet schmucks can have their bloodlust sated.
It reminds me of that government official who lost his job for using the word "niggardly"... which isn't offensive, unless you're stupid. But the Idiocracy must be appeased, I guess...
posted by hincandenza at 01:25 PM on February 20
I think it would be interesting to examine both men's histories as journalists to see if they'd ever used the phrase before and how often. I will buy "honest mistake" if it can be shown that the phrase had appeared in either man's lexicon in any other context than Jeremy Lin. If this is the first time either had used it, I suppose it could be some sort of Fruedian slip. Although poor judgment paired with trying to be clever is the more likely explanation.
posted by tahoemoj at 12:33 PM on February 20
Sorry Anthony, but I'm not buying it. A late night Spofi post or Tweet after too much Tequila and a quicker than normal mouse finger? Maybe. A headline created as a professional representative for a major corporation?
Stop and think if potential future employers are more concerned about a single instance of bad judgement or a complete lack of competence.
posted by cixelsyd at 12:11 PM on February 20
Alternatively, why not include the MLS in the comparison? Lot of foreign flags in that list.
Because this is about managers in top European leagues, written by an Englishman.
posted by billsaysthis at 11:40 AM on February 20
The headline writer, Anthony Federico, has cast his vote for honest mistake.
posted by rcade at 11:31 AM on February 20
Should have played it where it lied.
Nice gesture by Mickelson, though, signing the glove for the fan.
posted by dyams at 11:19 AM on February 20
I'm more likely to believe that someone saying it out loud during a live broadcast made an honest mistake, than someone who created a headline for the online article.
posted by grum@work at 11:05 AM on February 20
I'm kinda sad that the employee who did the (I'm assuming) "Chink in the armor" headline was probably just making an honest mistake.
I'll add another vote to the "unlikely to be an honest mistake" tally. My reasoning: in these days when vocabularies seem to be shrinking, "chink in the armor" is just not a very common phrase. I find it unlikely that someone would know the phrase and at the same time be completely unaware that it's not a commonly used phrase, and that the same word has a different meaning which would come much more readily to mind with most people. It may not have been a sly attempt to get in a racist jab for free, but in the most generous possible interpretation, it showed a level of obliviousness and lack of judgment that indicates this individual isn't to be trusted to compose a headline.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:35 AM on February 20
I'm kinda sad that the employee who did the (I'm assuming) "Chink in the armor" headline was probably just making an honest mistake.
As a headline writer myself, I find that unlikely. You're always looking for a play on words. When Bill Clinton praised Mark Felt for his government service, I was able to use the headline "Clinton Appreciates Deep Throat." It was my greatest day as a journalist.
I don't like people getting fired for something like this, but punishment of some kind was required to show that ESPN took it seriously. That headline was a huge embarrassment for the network.
posted by rcade at 09:15 AM on February 20
This is absolutely deplorable. How can I order their next fight?
posted by rcade at 09:08 AM on February 20
Because ESPNs mistakes are displayed instantly to the world. Those type of mistakes can alienate millions. A huge entity like ESPN isn't going to care about some insignificant employee more than their image, and the way they do damage control is to act swiftly and firmly.
I also have trouble believing completely this was a honest mistake. Everyone reading and hearing this can pick it out immediately but it never dawns on anyone at the network? Again, this is a instance where their cute, silly, funny side may have bit them in the ass.
posted by dyams at 07:59 AM on February 20
I'm kinda sad that the employee who did the (I'm assuming) "Chink in the armor" headline was probably just making an honest mistake. I hate this vindictive 24/7 instant-response culture that requires someone to blame for anything and everything. Why can't honest mistakes be made, and forgiven and forgotten?
posted by hincandenza at 03:28 AM on February 20
That said, over the last 10 seasons, the record holders for consecutive games with 5+ turnovers are:
The common theme being: those guys use a ton of possessions. Lin's usage rate right now is second only to Lebron James. It's pretty crazy how much control he has been given over this offense in less than a month. Anyway, if you look at turnover ratio, Lin is still bad but not legendarily so. He's a little better than Kidd and a little worse than Rubio and Nash. That said, Lin's turnovers are less a product of risky passing and more a product of being a wee bit out of control at all times, which seems less useful in the long run.
posted by tron7 at 03:15 AM on February 20
Is it me, or are these kinds of things faked up to generate interest?
posted by etagloh at 11:49 PM on February 19
Montreal Canadiens (who currently have Montreal Expos retired numbers in their rafters after the franchised died) honoured Gary Carter at today's game. All of the Montreal players had "Carter" and "8" on the backs of their warm-up jerseys, and then the ice looked like this during a moment of silence:
posted by grum@work at 10:29 PM on February 19
Well, the Mavericks are really good on D, and Lin was on the floor for pretty much the entire game, and he handled the ball on nearly every possession. I'm not really that surprised by the turnover number.
posted by insomnyuk at 09:46 PM on February 19
Is it me, or are these kinds of things faked up to generate interest?
Because it seems to happen a lot and is getting tiresome.
posted by owlhouse at 09:00 PM on February 19
Jeremy Lin was great today against the Mavericks. 28 points, 14 assists, 4 steals, 7 turnovers.
He's approaching legendary status for turning the ball over.
The record for a season is about 4.5/game, and he's had 52 in 8 starts.
That said, over the last 10 seasons, the record holders for consecutive games with 5+ turnovers are:
Allen Iverson (2003) - 7
Steve Nash (2009) - 6
Dwayne Wade (2007) - 6
Jeremy Lin (2012) - 6
So that's pretty good company...
posted by grum@work at 06:21 PM on February 19
"The radio commentator is not an ESPN employee. So ESPN is having him killed."
posted by rcade at 05:39 PM on February 19
And ESPN extends the olive branch.
posted by NerfballPro at 05:27 PM on February 19
As a Mavs fan, I hated that game, but I'll be the first to admit that the Knicks being relevant is good for the League.
posted by Ufez Jones at 04:46 PM on February 19
Jeremy Lin was great today against the Mavericks. 28 points, 14 assists, 4 steals, 7 turnovers.
posted by insomnyuk at 04:22 PM on February 19
But for an apples to apples comparison, only those should be included.
I don't think such a thing is possible. There seems to be a giant hang-up/ national insecurity in England that because World Cups have tended to be won by teams whose manager is from the same country that it must be so and England's lack of homegrown management bespeaks an endemic failure that points to some fatal flaw in the national character.
If we're asking for apples-to-apples, consider this, based on square miles:
Germany: 113% the size of the entire British Isles Spain: 160% France: 214%
Italy is slightly smaller, the Netherlands and Portugal are much smaller. I think the countries might be slightly different culturally and linguistically as well. I love stats as much as 97% of the next guys, but this feels like the sort of manufactured stat that serves no purpose other than to start arguments at a bar.
posted by yerfatma at 03:27 PM on February 19
I don't know which British countries have teams in the top ranks of the Football Association. But for an apples to apples comparison, only those should be included.
Is Portugal the country where almost no players are foreign?
posted by rcade at 02:36 PM on February 19
Because the other countries in the comparison aren't direct analogies. Should be only count Bavarian coaches in the Budesliga? I'd also argue that the Dutch and Portugese leagues are tough comparisons because there just isn't the same amount of money available. Some of the percentage of foreign coaches is the amount of money available to pay for the world's best talent.
Alternatively, why not include the MLS in the comparison? Lot of foreign flags in that list.
posted by yerfatma at 02:05 PM on February 19
Why count British coaches in an English league?
posted by rcade at 11:00 AM on February 19
That seems completely skewed by the fact the league is "English" while it sits in the British Isles. It's still the biggest foreign-coached league, but 13-7 is less eye-catching than 17-3.
posted by yerfatma at 10:24 AM on February 19
The long, empty days spawned a temporary madness. Desperate for female company, he talked ardently to the planet Venus.
posted by DudeDykstra at 10:22 AM on February 19
Now, I haven't watched a ton of MMA events, but what you describe sounds more like the WWE than the UFC.
posted by apoch at 09:44 AM on February 19
Nationalities of Managers in European leagues. Interesting comparison at the least.
posted by billsaysthis at 02:13 PM on February 18
Wow. That's really mind blowing.
posted by tahoemoj at 10:59 AM on February 18
Barkley: 'I Cannot Believe How Bad the NBA is Right Now'
lingrum, is a bit lingrumpy.